Showing posts with label frank schaeffer. Show all posts
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Friday, November 20, 2009

VIDEO: “Pray for Obama” Psalm 109:8 more like biblical death threat

By GottaLaff

As Frank Schaeffer told Rachel Maddow on Tuesday, the anti-Obama religious rhetoric is “trawling for assassins:



If you did happen to watch The Rachel Maddow Show the other day, you've been well-informed about the appalling sales pitches, er, threats, um, prayers of some very misguided, very destructive religious extremists:
Diana Butler Bass at Beliefnet explains that Psalm 109 is one of the “imprecatory” prayers, “a lament in the form of petition to destroy one’s enemies.” While perhaps intended to be a joke, she notes that the psalm actually “entreats God to destroy the president”
Zazzle had the good sense and taste to remove the items from their site. However:
CafePress has been carrying the Psalm 109:8 items but pulled the items from their website yesterday, though it appears that as of today they have relisted several items, issuing this statement:

We initially pulled the Psalm 109:8 content from our products today because broader media dialog indicated that these designs potentially suggested violence towards the president. Based on current public discourse and further review of the actual content, we have determined that it is fair political commentary and we are in the process of reinstating this merchandise. As with all of our content, these designs will continue to be reviewed and if at any time their meaning is construed as advocating violence we will revisit our decision.

Based on current public discourse and our determination of what it is fair political commentary, Psalm 109:8 products are still featured on our site. Anti-presidential gear has been a mainstay at CafePress since we were founded in 1999 and has become a key component of political discourse. Our site has become a cultural barometer of public opinion and as such designs often come into question. In managing our content we are trying to protect self-expression, while making sure we are not advocating violence.

Sometimes it's better to consider common decency and the safety of the president than it is to make a quick buck. Sometimes disclaimers just don't cut it. Sometimes the priority should be concern over that one person who could snap after being egged on by your product line.

UPDATE per Xero in Comments, they took them down:
"General consensus has proven that the design does point to a broader interpretation of the Psalm and thus has been deemed inappropriate for sale at CafePress."
H/t: FreeRangeTalk

Wednesday, October 14, 2009

Former right-wing leader warns of religious right violence: ‘Anyone can be killed’

By GottaLaff

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My very talented buddy Larisa Alexandrovna has written an extraordinary piece for Raw Story. She interviewed Frank Schaeffer (you can view a bonus video of a Schaeffer interview with Rachel Maddow here), who is afraid for President Obama's life, among other things.

I've posted about this very topic a few times, but Larisa's interview is so thorough and informative that it is a must-read among must-reads.

Excerpts:

"Since President Obama took office I've felt like the lonely -- maybe crazy -- proverbial canary in the coal mine," Schaeffer said. "As a former right wing leader, who many years ago came to my senses and began to try to undo the harm the movement of religious extremism I helped build has done, I've been telling the media that we're facing a dangerous time in our history. A fringe element of the far right Republican Party seems it believes it has a license to incite threatening behavior in the name of God."

"The bestselling status of the Left Behind novels proves that, not unlike Islamist terrorists who behead their enemies, many evangelical/fundamentalist readers relish the prospect of God doing lots of messy killing for them as they watch in comfort from on high," he added. "They want revenge on all people not like them -- forever." [...]

And if you want to know what the greatest threat to our president is, look no further than where evangelical "Christianity" intersects with Glenn Beck's fans. The FBI should seize his fan letter email. I'll bet they'd find some very interesting folks out there, people in militias, far right hate groups, and all the rest.
Go here for the rest. It's an excellent, but very disturbing, piece.

Monday, September 14, 2009

Who ARE these 9/12ers and Far Right Subversives?

By GottaLaff


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I was brought up to be respectful of others, taught never to bully, glorify violence, or exhibit inappropriate hostility. Until relatively recently, I believed that most others followed basic rules of decency and ethics.

Because I was raised to follow the rules, to do unto others, and to listen and respond in a reasonable, logical way, I idealistically hoped I'd get what I gave.

I was wrong.

What is happening? Who are these vicious, seething people? Why do they act as they do?

Frank Schaeffer gives us his take here. Here are a few excerpts, but please follow the link for the details:
  • Protecting Your Children From Satan: To protect your children from Satan -- in other words mainstream, open patriotic and pluralistic America -- you either kept them at home where mom and dad could teach the children right from wrong or send them to a cloistered private evangelical/fundamentalist school.
  • The Anti-American Home Schoolers Come Of Age: If you wonder who it is that's both running and underwriting organizations such as the Family Research Council, Focus On The Family, Freedom Works and other organizers of the 9/12 March and who are most faithful followers the likes of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh or viewers of Fox News your answer is: it's the home school/Christian school generation of men and women now hitting their thirties and even forties who might as well have been raised on a different planet.
  • Evangelical Red Guards: Who are Glenn Beck's foot soldiers? In effect what we have is a group of indoctrinated people who have never actually lived in America because they were brought up deliberately cloistered from it by their parents and churches. Because they are legally "Americans" they can move freely around our democracy trying to destroy it working within the United States. Today they are acting like a fifth column, no, they are a fifth column. Some of them have not just seceded metaphorically, there is even a growing movement for states to secede literally.

    Today the right wing America haters actually are doing to America what no "illegal" immigrants ever do: work to overthrow our democracy and replace it with a theocracy. The home-schooled, privately educated brainwashed horde are an antidemocratic, fundamentally anti-American political movement. For a start they do not accept the results of the last election.
  • Liberal/Progressive Wishful Thinking and Blindness: Meanwhile those ordinary Americans including many Democrats, progressives and liberal's who work within the system can hardly imagine that there are people so far outside the lines of what they regard as ordinary decent behavior that the progressives seem psychologically unequipped to deal with this reality.
  • Bipartisan Pipe Dream: Because you can't be bipartisan with people who don't play by the same rules--say accepting the will of the people -- as you do. [...] I, as a life-long Republican and former Religious Right activist helped create this situation. But Tanenhaus and others like him just don't get the fact that the far right is resurgent, in fact more dangerous than ever as a wounded animal is dangerous. They don't get it because kindly liberals also live in a bubble.
  • The Last Chess Game You'll Ever Play: What reasonable people don't understand is this: if one person is playing chess abiding by the rules and their opponent is losing at the chess game it may appear that they have lost the match. But what if one person is willing to change the rules?
  • Serial Killers: To understand the Religious Right today and how dangerous they are don't think politics-- think serial killers who "win" by "getting even" with the society they perceive as having disrespected them. It isn't about facts. It isn't about election results. It isn't about truth. It's about victimhood and revenge on the "elite" in other words on everyone not like you. It is about the weird combination of sadism and masochism Blumenthal describes in his book.
  • New Rules: Anarchy and Scorched Earth: What those who think that the power of the Religious Right and/or the Republicans is ended don't understand is that it's only ended if you believe in the rules. When I say the rules I mean, for instance, that if you lose an election the other side gets to legislate. However if your opponent is not interested in the rules and is, A) waiting for Jesus to return and consume all the "infidels" or, B) you are just waiting to take that "lead pipe" out of your back pocket -- say go to public meetings and intimidate people by carrying loaded weapons to those meetings -- or worse, maybe even use them to shoot down someone -- all polite bets are off!
  • Religious Right Growing Again: To the progressives who think that the Religious Right and the right wing has lost its power I say this: You're correct when it comes to political facts (for the moment) of the last election, but you're dead wrong when it comes to the way revolutions work.
  • Second American "Tea Party" Revolution: Revolutionaries never have played by the rules. They don't have to win by the rules. They hate the rules. They don't live in a rule based or fact based universe. [...] In order to "win" -- in other words destroy our country as we know it -- the far right merely needs to be true to its own rule which is, to put it very mildly, that coloring outside the lines is not only perfectly okay but required.
  • Conclusion: The tactics that progressives develop for actually winning against the right have to involve far more than politics. They have to also involve ceaseless vigilance against an enemy that has now -- literally -- raised up an armed, paranoid and deluded alternative nation within our borders and created a fifth column to undermine the United States and our democracy. They need to be called out by the rest of us in no uncertain terms.
There is much more. Please read the rest, but in a nutshell, that's what Schaeffer thinks. What do you think?

H/t: Gr8RDH

Monday, June 1, 2009

VIDEO-- Rachel Maddow interviews Frank Schaeffer: Hate speech leads to violence

By GottaLaff

See, Bile O'Lielly? Some people actually have regrets:

Sunday, March 8, 2009

VIDEO-- Frank Schaeffer on D.L. Hughley: A few loud Republicans are like the "one ass on the front end [of a subway] who's molesting women"

By GottaLaff

Schaeffer describes what's left of the Rushpublic party. The more graphic part is at the end, where he talks about what that small, loud minority of Coulter/Boss Limbaugh followers reminds him of:



More here, at HuffPost.

H/t: One of our Anonymi

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