Showing posts with label supermax prison. Show all posts
Showing posts with label supermax prison. Show all posts

Thursday, March 18, 2010

Breaking: U.S. to buy Illinois prison in Thomson, Illinois

By GottaLaff

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It was an almost done-deal, and now it is a done done-deal. Via an e-mail alert:

The Obama administration plans to purchase a state prison in rural Thomson, Ill., regardless of whether Congress allows terrorism suspects to be transferred there, a Department of Justice official said today.

In a letter to a member of the Illinois delegation to Congress, Assistant Atty. Gen. Ronald Weich spelled out the administration's intent to go ahead with plans to buy the near-empty Thomson prison, even if lawmakers refuse to approve its use as a new home for detainees at the military-run prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

More soon at: http://www.latimes.com

They could always convert it into a Supersized Wal-Mart. That would get Rushpublic support.

Friday, January 8, 2010

VIDEO- Terrorist Lockup: Tough or Wuss?

By GottaLaff



Hippie_Cyndi just brought this video to my attention. Thanks, Cyn, it hit the spot:

Are you tough or a wuss? Take a look at what it takes to put terrorists away for good, starting with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. (Oh, and the 195 others who have already been put on trial in the U.S.) A Mark Fiore political animation.

Liveblogging Robert Gibbs briefing: The economy, more

By GottaLaff

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Robert Gibbs: (forgive my shorthand... it's the only way I can get most of the convos down)

We knew this was gonna be a long road... ups and downs. There are some light spots that are at least encouraging... People have lost their jobs and are hurting.

Re: Gasoline prices rising... Yes, a concern to the president. He will make a statement.

Tapper: How worried is Obama about double dip recession?

Gibbs: He wakes up concerned every day, understands millions are hurting, whether last months job losses or present... He's not satisfied with where we were. He's not an economic prognosticator, but concerned about the economy, people hurting, stories he's heard for many, many years, creating environment to hire (re: small businesses, etc.)

Tapper: Gitmo... where are 6 you transferrred?

Gibbs: Not getting into transfers.

Tapper: Convert prison to supermax. Timetable?

Gibbs: No timetable. We'll work with Congress re: retrofitting, purchasing prison in Thomson, moving prisoners.

Ed Henry, CNN: Geithner should testify?

Gibbs: Geithner not involved in emails (NY Fed). He wasn't party to the decision being made.

Ed: 1000s more emails. Transparency?

Gibbs: I'll point you to Treasury. Emails did not involve him. Decision made by 2 people, didn't involve him. He has Obama's full confidence.

Chip Reid: President hasn't opened himself up to questions lately. Why?

Gibbs: You all reminded me of our "dramatic overexposure" last time.

Chip: That was then. [laughter]

MSNBC: Net job growth this year?

Gibbs: Look at trajectory, numbers, leads you to believe positive job growth, yeah.

MSNBC: Detainees... Yemen... Gitmo has been a black eye on US. Guarantees that other govt's will treat prisoners properly?

Gibbs: Won't discuss it today.... back and forth on something we're not gonna discuss today, don't want to do that.

Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Gitmo may have to stay open until 2011

By GottaLaff

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Even when Gitmo is finally closed down, there's still the problem of indefinite detention at the Illinois supermax prison.

President Barack Obama's commitment to close the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by next month may be delayed until 2011 because it will take months for the government to buy an Illinois prison and upgrade it to hold suspected terrorists.

And in case you were wondering, Health Care Reform Stalling Tactic #1 is alive and well:

In the Senate, a spokesman for Republican leader Mitch McConnell promised that the GOP would use delaying tactics to prevent funding the Illinois facility and added that he expected support from Democrats.

How would Mitch feel if he'd been tortured and imprisoned for eight years? Would he write a thank you note to the GOP for extending his stay at Hotel Gitmo?

In addition to any appropriations struggles, current federal law requires that detainees can only be housed in the United States while their trials are pending. That law would have to be changed to cover detainees who have not yet been charged and will not be sent abroad. The change would have to specify that detainees could be kept on U.S. soil for any purpose.

Oh and hey! Remember all those high-value, evil, menacing, lethal, terrorists who were brutally abused and locked up in cells because they were such a threat to America?

A whole bunch of 'em were released.

I guess they weren't so dangerous after all.

The Justice Department said last weekend that since 2002, more than 560 detainees have departed the military prison in Cuba and 198 remain.

Oh well. Our bad.

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All my previous posts on this subject matter can be found here; That link includes one specific to only Fayiz al-Kandari's story here. Here are audio and video interviews with Lt. Col. Wingard, one by David Shuster, one by Ana Marie Cox, and more. My guest commentary at BuzzFlash is here.

Lt. Col. Barry Wingard is a military attorney who represents Fayiz Al-Kandari in the Military Commission process and in no way represents the opinions of his home state. When not on active duty, Colonel Wingard is a public defender in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

If you are inclined to help rectify these injustices: Twitterers, use the hashtag #FreeFayiz. We have organized a team to get these stories out. If you are interested in helping Fayiz out, e-mail me at The Political Carnival, address in sidebar to the right; or tweet me at @GottaLaff.

If you'd like to see other ways you can take action, go here and scroll down to the end of the article.

Then read Jane Mayer's book The Dark Side. You'll have a much greater understanding of why I post endlessly about this, and why I'm all over the CIA deception issues, too.

More of Fayiz's story here, at Answers.com.

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

VIDEO- Ed Schultz nails Rep. Joe Barton's flawed talking points re: Supermax prison

By GottaLaff

Ed stymied Not Joe Lieberman, and he went all deer in the headlights. Talking points much, Other Joe?

Visit msnbc.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, explains why many GOP members of Congress oppose the Obama administration’s decision to bring Guantanamo Bay detainees to a detention facility in Illinois.
Note: It's wise to stock up on facts before appearing on national television.

And why again does Texas have a different view of terrorists than the rest of the United States? They haven't even seceded yet.

Sunday, December 6, 2009

Gitmo detainees likely to end up in Illinois supermax prison

By GottaLaff

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That sound you hear is the hair being ripped out of Rushpublic heads:
Despite opposition from congressional Republicans, the Obama administration is signaling that a state prison in rural Thomson, Ill., will probably become the new home for scores of terrorism suspects now housed at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Oh noes! Batten down the hatches! The terrorists will be released the second they hit Illinois soil and make a mad rush for your children's swing sets!

What-oh-what will the president do to calm frayed GOP nerves and paranoia? Xanax? Valium?
To reassure skeptical Republicans, they emphasized security.
Oh... that.
If all goes well, administration sources involved in closing the Guantanamo Bay prison anticipate a handover of the Thomson facility by late winter. It would then take several months to prepare the prison to a level "beyond supermax" and put the staff in place, according to federal estimates.
That's it. Thomson will be Ground Zero for Bad Guy Central. Plot after evil plot will be hatched. Never mind that we already have convicted terrorists safely locked away with no escapes, no havoc, no Al Qaeda recruitment offices opening up within prison walls.

In other words, politicizing as usual is a big fat waste of time:
"We can defeat Republican efforts to stop this," said Schakowsky, who contends the GOP is "'absolutely politicizing the situation. They're looking for any angle that would make the president somehow look soft on terrorists. Fear, in the past, has been their friend."
So it's true: You can judge a person by who their friends are.

Tuesday, November 17, 2009

Senate approves budget for veterans programs

By GottaLaff

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True bipartisanship:
The Senate on Tuesday adopted the latest in a continuing series of major budget increases to provide medical care for veterans.

The move came as the Senate passed, by a rare 100-0 vote, a $134 billion spending bill for veterans programs and military construction projects. Even the most ardent spending hawks and foes of the congressional practice of earmarking pet projects to lawmakers' districts and states voted for the legislation. [...]

The Department of Veterans Affairs estimates that 419,000 veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan will be covered by VA health care by next year — a 61 percent increase over 2008 levels — at a cost of $2.1 billion.

And a bonus:

Also Tuesday, the Senate killed an amendment by Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla., that would have barred the Obama administration from either building in the U.S. a new prison to hold detainees from the controversial Guantanamo Bay prison or upgrading an existing facility to hold them.

Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., who's advocating bringing Guantanamo detainees to a largely vacant state prison in rural Illinois, rallied colleagues against the amendment and said it made no sense to bring prisoners from Guantanamo to the U.S. but not be able to spend money to make U.S. facilities safer.

Once in a blue moon, they get it right.

Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) flunks geography

By GottaLaff

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From the Department of I Are a Colluj Grad-U-Ut:
This morning, while appearing on Chicago's FOX32, Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) who is running for the Republican nomination for US Senate in Illinois, referred to the proposal to move terror suspects to the Thomson Correctional Center as the "Great Lakes GITMO." [...]

The Hill also shares the following quote from Kirk:

"I will offer the Kirk Amendment to the upcoming supplemental appropriations bill requiring a ‘Homeland Insecurity Impact Statement’ on the potential impact on O’Hare and the Willis (Sears) Tower in Chicago before federal funds can be used to bring al Qaeda terrorists to Illinois." [...]

[H]is "concerns," aka political grandstanding, are baseless if you consider that the Thomson Correctional Center is almost on the banks of the Mississippi River and is 152 miles from the nearest Great Lake, Michigan. Additionally, he should also be reminded that O'Hare is 145 miles away, while the Willis (Sears) Tower is 148 miles away.
Kinda cuts into his credibility, don't it?

Thank you Windy City Watch, for catching this one.

Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Guantanamo commander: I can empty prison in 10 days

By GottaLaff


Paddy linked to this earlier, but it deserves its own post.
The military can comply with a White House order to empty the detention center and clear all 221 war-on-terror captives off this remote base "with 10 days notice,'' the prison camps commander said Tuesday.
But... but... how can officials convince us that there will be crazy evildoers breaking loose, invading our back yards, and turning America into a nuclear battleground in only 10 days? They'll need at least two weeks for that... not to mention coming up with brand spanking new roadblocks that are now merely glimmers in their beady little eyes.

Navy Rear Adm. Tom Copeman:

"If they say on Jan. 12, 'Move them out,' we can meet the deadline,'' he said, "given the proper amount of logistical support.''

There it is. Fat chance. Shivery, quivery Congress members would never approve logistical support. Why, that would be crazy!

He ticked off such requirements as enough airplanes to move them elsewhere and ferry runs across the bay that separates the prison camps from the Navy base landing strip where C-17 Globemaster aircraft shuttle the captives away.

That's an impossible list of requirements. We all know that if there's one thing the U.S. is short of, it's airplanes and boats. Oh, I'm sorry, we're not?

The over-arching challenge, Copeman said, was for the policymakers in Washington D.C. to find places to send the men.

Another key issue, he said, would be "how many (detainees) you can safely get on an airplane with the right amount of guards.''

How many detainees can you safely get on an airplane? They can't figure that out in under a week? A day? An hour?

While we're at it, how many Congresspeople does it take to change a light bulb? None. They like keeping us in the dark.

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All my previous posts on this subject matter can be found here; That link includes audio and video interviews with Lt. Col. Wingard, one by David Shuster, one by Ana Marie Cox, and more. My guest commentary at BuzzFlash is here.

Lt. Col. Barry Wingard is a military attorney who represents Fayiz Al-Kandari in the Military Commission process and in no way represents the opinions of his home state. When not on active duty, Colonel Wingard is a public defender in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

If you are inclined to help rectify these injustices: Twitterers, use the hashtag #FreeFayiz. We have organized a team to get these stories out. If you are interested in helping Fayiz out, e-mail me at The Political Carnival, address in sidebar to the right; or tweet me at @GottaLaff.

If you'd like to see other ways you can take action, go here and scroll down to the end of the article.

Then read Jane Mayer's book The Dark Side. You'll have a much greater understanding of why I post endlessly about this, and why I'm all over the CIA deception issues, too.

More of Fayiz's story here, at Answers.com.

Tuesday, October 20, 2009

BREAKING: Senate approves plan to let Gitmo detainees in U.S. for trial

By GottaLaff

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David Shuster just reported that the Senate has approved a plan to allow Guantanamo Bay detainees into the U.S. for trial. That's both houses that have given approval.

Uh-O-o-oh.

Batten down the hatches, the evildoers are coming! What could Congress members be thinking?! Hide the kids! Get out the firearms! Everyone knows our supermax prisons will never be able to hold these crafty terrorists! America will turn into a veritable battlefield!

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All my previous posts on this subject matter can be found here; That link includes audio and video interviews with Lt. Col. Wingard, one by David Shuster, one by Ana Marie Cox, and more. My guest commentary at BuzzFlash is here.

Lt. Col. Barry Wingard is a military attorney who represents Fayiz Al-Kandari in the Military Commission process and in no way represents the opinions of his home state. When not on active duty, Colonel Wingard is a public defender in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

If you are inclined to help rectify these injustices: Twitterers, use the hashtag #FreeFayiz. We have organized a team to get these stories out. If you are interested in helping Fayiz out, e-mail me at The Political Carnival, address in sidebar to the right; or tweet me at @GottaLaff.

If you'd like to see other ways you can take action, go here and scroll down to the end of the article.

Then read Jane Mayer's book The Dark Side. You'll have a much greater understanding of why I post endlessly about this, and why I'm all over the CIA deception issues, too.

More of Fayiz's story here, at Answers.com.

Wednesday, August 5, 2009

NIMBY! Gitmo detainee transfers provoke Senate threats

By GottaLaff

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One proposal would be to establish a jail and court complex either at the U.S. military prison at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., or at a maximum-security facility in Standish, Mich

It seems like just a couple of days ago I posted about President Obama's latest plan to close Gitmo and move the detainees to U.S. supermax prisons. Oh wait. It was.

All those evildoers running free, all those prison guards smiling fondly and waving bye-bye as they watch their little fledglings take wing, climbing over back yard fences and teaching villain games to kidlets in wading pools all over Kansas. Kinda brings a tear to the eye, doesn't it?

Hm? What's that? That would never happen? Well, I know that, and you know that, but apparently some Rushpublic senators don't:
If it takes shutting down the Senate to block the Obama administration from moving prisoners from Guantanamo Bay to U.S. soil, that’s exactly what some Republican senators plan to do.

Following several reports Aug. 3 that the White House was debating two distinct proposals for dealing with more than 250 prisoners still housed at the detention facility at the U.S. military base in Cuba, senators from various parts of the country pledged to fight any attempt to move the terrorism suspects to the United States, severely complicating President Obama’s plan to close the prison by January. [...]

You can always shut down the Senate by simply putting the Senate in a quorum call and objecting to any unanimous consent to go back to business,” Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said Tuesday. [...]

The Kansas Republicans held multiple news conferences to drive home the idea that they would do everything they could to prevent detainees from being transferred to their state under any circumstances.

Carl Levin responded that, among other things, "it would be an important economic boost.”

Republican senators also oppose the other alternative: trying Guantanamo prisoners in East Coast federal civilian courts. They argue that any process not fully under the military’s jurisdiction could open a Pandora’s box of legal issues.

Under military law, you can hold someone off the battlefield indefinitely if they present a danger. Under domestic criminal law, you need to try someone or let them go,” said Armed Services member Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., a military lawyer who is working with the administration to overhaul the military commissions process in the context of the fiscal 2010 defense authorization bill (HR 2647).

Indefinite detention. Don't even start me. Instead, go here.

Durbin has often argued that terrorism suspects are held in U.S. prisons now, with no adverse consequences. He has also acknowledged the effectiveness of the GOP tactic of offering Guantanamo amendments in a way that pressures Senate Democrats to go along.

Why are these little Rushpbulic men and women so terrified of everything? Why do they cower so? Don't they have any faith in America's own supermax prisons and/or legal system? That would be the same legal system that convicted known "worst of the worst" terrorists and imprisoned them in supermax prisons that have exemplary reputations:

Brownback has gone into full Chicken Little mode, warning anyone who will listen that Gitmo should not be emptied and closed after all because it's too dangerous to have prisoners at Ft. Leavenworth. [...]

They aren't even the "worst of the worst," a grossly unfair label that men such as former Attys. Gen. Alberto R. Gonzales and John Ashcroft placed on them despite strong evidence to the contrary.

A great many terrorists have been successfully prosecuted and sentenced under federal criminal law -- both before and after Sept. 11, 2001. The roster of current maximum-security federal inmates reads like a Who's Who of Terrorism: Zacarias Moussaoui, Richard Reid, Jose Padilla, Ramzi Yousef, Ahmed Ressam (not to mention home-grown lovelies such as Terry Nichols and Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber).

The prisoners incarcerated in Kansas, before or after trial, would be part of a system that is as safe as the world has ever known. I have toured the supermax facility, and I defy anyone who also has done so to suggest that it, or a new, similar prison, could not safely house the prisoners until they die, are transferred elsewhere or are released. [...]

We aren't talking about Khalid Shaikh Mohammed or Ramzi Binalshibh, remember, we are talking mostly about men who are used to being led, not to leading or planning.

If Gitmo detainees are transferred to Kansas, it will not become a battlefield for terrorists any more than Colorado has become a scene of carnage in the years since terror-convicts have been sent to the federal "supermax" facility there.

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All my previous posts on this subject matter can be found here; That link includes audio and video interviews with Lt. Col. Wingard, one by David Shuster, one by Ana Marie Cox, and more. My guest commentary at BuzzFlash is here.

If you are inclined to help rectify these injustices: Twitterers, use the hashtag #FreeFayiz. We have organized a team to get these stories out. If you are interested in helping Fayiz out, e-mail me at The Political Carnival, address in sidebar to the right; or tweet me at @GottaLaff.

If you'd like to see other ways you can take action, go here and scroll down to the end of the article.

Then read Jane Mayer's book The Dark Side. You'll have a much greater understanding of why I post endlessly about this, and why I'm all over the CIA deception issues, too.

More of Fayiz's story here, at Answers.com.

Tuesday, July 21, 2009

VIDEO-- Inhofe: Obama is "obsessed" with transferring Gtimo detainees

By GottaLaff

Inhofe: The ObamAdministration "is obsessed"! And did you know there hasn't been so much as one "documented" instance of torture at Gitmo?

Know why, Jim? Because the evidence has been destroyed or otherwise kept from view.

Who cares about reality anyway, right? All this must be true because Jim Inhofe says it's true.

Based on recent events, I can say without hesitation that the Rushpublic party is off its collective rocker:



Do these skittery little alarmists honestly think that Gitmo transferees are going to get loose, beeline directly into the nearest backyard, and kill our children?

They trust our supermax prisons to hold other terrorists and murderers, the "worst of the worst", but somehow the New Guys on the Cell Block will discover the Secret Magic Key, tiptoe past security, and stroll to freedom.

Way to have faith in America's prison system, guys.

All my previous posts on this subject matter can be found here; That link includes audio and video interviews with Lt. Col. Wingard, one by David Shuster, one by Ana Marie Cox, and more. My guest commentary at BuzzFlash is here.

If you are inclined to help rectify these injustices: Twitterers, use the hashtag #FreeFayiz. We have organized a team to get these stories out. If you are interested in helping Fayiz out, e-mail me at The Political Carnival, address in sidebar to the right; or tweet me at @GottaLaff.

If you'd like to see other ways you can take action, go here and scroll down to the end of the article.

Then read Jane Mayer's book The Dark Side. You'll have a much greater understanding of why I post endlessly about this, and why I'm all over the CIA deception issues, too.

More of Fayiz's story here, at Answers.com.

Thursday, July 9, 2009

Supermax prison: Obama’s books "potentially detrimental to national security"

By GottaLaff

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Shhh, don't tell anyone what's in Prez O's books. And warning to the millions who have read them-- they are now Super Duper Double Ultra Top Secret:
The federal government's most secure prison has determined that two books written by President Barack Obama contain material "potentially detrimental to national security" and rejected an inmate's request to read them.

Ahmed Omar Abu Ali is serving a 30-year sentence at the federal supermax prison in Florence, Colo., for joining al-Qaida and plotting to assassinate then-President George W. Bush. Last year, Abu Ali requested two books written by Obama: "Dreams from My Father" and "The Audacity of Hope."

Wait... an Al-Qaida member in an American supermax prison? How could that be?

Oh I know. The libruls let him roam around the country loose for awhile, and then he got so tired and slow that they caught him and locked him up before he could find his way into any back yards.

But the Obama books... those are the real threat.

But prison officials, citing guidance from the FBI, determined that passages in both books contain information that could damage national security.

That darned Obama, exposing all those national security secrets sandwiched between loving tributes to his family. He's a sly one, alright.

Or is he a Communist Marxist Fascist terrorist? I hear he once wandered into a back yard, too.

The rejection is just one indication of the harsh conditions imposed on inmates at the supermax prison, according to Abu Ali's lawyer, Joshua Dratel. [...]

Abu Ali requested the books in August, before Obama was elected. [...]

Prison officials cite specific pages — but not specific passages — in the books that they deem objectionable. They include one page in Obama's 1995 book, "Dreams from My Father," and 22 separate pages in his policy-oriented 2006 book, "The Audacity of Hope." It was not immediately obvious what passages might have been deemed problematic, though nearly half of the pages cited are in a chapter devoted to foreign affairs.

They could have just done this to the books. They do it to everything else:

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